I would rate the recoil of the HK 45 as slightly less than a 1911. I don't have much love for the USP compacts though. Hope this helps. They don't call it the master race for nothing ;), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HecklerKoch community, A subreddit for all things H&K and H&K clones. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. The HK45 and USP45 are dang close in allot of areas but different elsewhere. If it's still there next Friday when I get paid again, it will be put on layaway. Now the con: 1: USP holds 12 in the mag, HK45 holds 10 Post H&K news, show off your guns, ask questions. There's a pretty detailed YouTube video on exactly this by devildolphin here. Very well made. I like the checkering on the front and back of the USP grip better than the texturing that is on the entire HK45 grip. The HK45 is comfy, ergonomic, and feels GREAT. Mine is a LEM trigger, not DA/SA though. HK45 vs USP 45. I could never get my grip right. The Caliber .45 ACP HK45 includes several user-inspired enhancements including changeable grip panels (backstraps), a Picatinny MIL-STD-1913 accessory rail, better ergonomics, and more ambidextrous controls. I’ve never really noticed the trigger trough while shooting it. As the HK45 Endurance Test started to wind down, pistol-training.com was fortunate to have two firearms industry legends — Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers — agree to discuss their involvement in the HK45’s history. The magazine release lever is a non-issue with me. Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. Hey everyone I’m thinking about purchasing a hk. Recoil is the same. I'm torn between outfitting a USP with the match trigger and night sights vs just getting a HK45T. I’ve spent years pining after an HK, and there’s a lot here I still didn’t know. I have meaty hands, so both were ergonomic "enough," but the HK45 … I'm not partial to condition 1/cocked and locked so the DA part is significant to me. I have owned and shot USP 45's for awhile now but the ergos of the HK45 are really starting to appeal to me. I put an LEM trigger kit in my USP9 that’s my carry gun, and I love it! I expect all three to outlast me 🙂 My reasoning is: 1. Rating - 100%. 2: The backstrap on the USP grip will tear your hand up, even CUT your palm! See if you can try a USP Compact out first and then make your decision. 2. Weird, I was just looking at another post from a while back about the Mark 23 and saw my comment answering someone's question about the differences between these 3. Jump to Latest Follow ... Plus its not like I don't have a usp 45 anyways. I'm seeing a few smith's out there that will remove the trough but does the DA trigger ever smooth out? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. I have a VP9, and I like it, but I prefer hammer fired gun personally. Jump to Latest Follow ... Plus its not like I don't have a usp 45 anyways. The HK45 grip is good, but the HK45c feels like a wet bar of soap. the HK45 either CT or T is the newest of the 3, and middle of the road. The HK45 is comfy, ergonomic, and feels GREAT. The USP 45 really isn’t designed for consumer use. *IF* you are looking for an HK pistol in 45, I'd go with the HK45, not the USP. Replacable side and back inserts. Unless it comes with more than 2 mags, and goodies. HK45 vs USP 45. The HK USP is big. And my LGS has a hk usp 45 compact and the hk45c. The HK 45 will sit in the rig about a quarter inch further than the USP because the trigger guard is in either a slightly different position or the barrel is slightly longer. The two pistols are not comparable except for the caliber and recoil. This brand new Heckler & Koch USP 45 V1 (81000322) is a semi-automatic pistol which fires the .45 ACP round. The FN holds 15+1. The HK P30 and HK45 are the new era of Heckler and Koch pistols. Rented both the HK45 and the HK45c this morning. If you don't want to contribute to the thread, please don't post use 'search'. When I was shopping for a .45 it was between the FN45 tactical and the HK45. Pretty sure hkparts has magazine extensions for it but I know what you mean. Heckler & Koch Pistol Shootout P30 vs. HK45. It’s big, and it belongs in a duty holster, not an IWB. It’s a beefy animal that not every shooter finds fits their hands well. In ~5500 combined rounds I have yet to have a malfunction. The HK 45 is a Rolls Royce compared to the USP 45. I have a full size USP 45 and love it. The USP .45 is a great range gun, shot some of my best groups ever with it at the 50 yard line. When comparing the two, my mind always went to the USP, simply because “it’s a USP”. Our patented recoil system increases accuracy and service life - even under the toughest conditions. 2: The backstrap on the USP grip will tear your hand up, even CUT your palm! The FN handguns feel flimsy/cheap in comparison. In fact, I've had the FNX 45 and FNX 45 Tactical, a HK MK23 and now the HK45. I have both...if you’re deciding which one to get I’d go with the USP it’s a great shooting pistol with a larger mag...hk45 has a 10 rd mag which is fine not making a fuss because I love my hk45...if your budget allows buy both and an mr762 if not stick with the USP it’s a classic that’s well respected...the Double action on the HK45 is a little lighter to me than the USP...but then again who isn’t cocked and locked all the time Amiright?? Replacable side and back inserts. In ~5500 combined rounds I have yet to have a malfunction. They both have pros and cons compared to each other. HK45: USP 2.0. That broke my heart a bit. The magazine release lever is a non-issue with me. HK45 vs. FNX45. HK45 Interview with Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers. But, it a BIG gun. It feeds any bullet shape, I like the match SWC's (jacketed) in it that caused feeding problems in Glocks and 1911's, the USP never bobbled them once. Mar 12, 2013 #1/14 wanted to see if anyone had any opinions in the H&K usp chambered in .45 vs the HK45. Both guns are super durable and reliable, and they definitely give off that vibe. I have had my USP .45 … by ... different. I think I need to prowl around the LGS's some more and try out a few more before I commit to any decision. I really enjoy my HK45. The two pistols are not comparable except for the caliber and recoil. But the HK45 trigger is worse then the USP Match trigger (which comes standard in the Tactical, and other “special” versions). HK45 would be perfect if they managed to keep the 12 rounds of .45 ACP. The ergonomics of the USP are excellent, in my opinion. Trigger, interchangable grip pads, o-ring barrel, phosphours sites, and on and on. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I have a full size USP 45 and love it. All in all, the HK45 is a solid gun, it just wasn't for me. HK45 vs. FNX45. The trigger on the DA/SA HK45 tactical is nice to me. The HK45 was developed as a product improvement of the highly regarded USP45, first released in the 1995. I picked up an HK45 and loved it. Thanks for typing all of this out. Hmmm, maybe. Little high IMO for a used-like-new USP 45T. I want to buy either a HK45C or a USP Compact 45. But on the flip side, it adds character. The HK 45 has a polymer buffer instead of the USP's dual spring system. I actually really like the USP grip, but I also like the HK45 grip. Different but both good. You can put a USP Match trigger kit in an HK45 with the exception of the actual trigger. It has a bit more mass in the slide, compared to many other consumer grade guns. Constructed for the US military based on the proven USP .45, our new HK45 and HK45 Compact models combine tried-and-tested characteristics with new features. Very accurate pistols. Didn't find the LEM to be all that great for me. Actually,the ONLY HK firearm that fits my gnarled paw is a HK45. They feel rock solid. Either way for the holster it's going to sit deeper slightly. The HK45/P30 was a improvement over the standard USP, but mechanics of the guns are similar and the Mags are interchangeable (on the HK45c and the USP 45c). I have a Stainless USP .45 full size, and a regular finished USP .45 full size. The FN holds 15+1. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. Contrary to what you might think, the HK45 doesn’t replace the USP45, nor is it universally “better”, although it is much newer. Two reasons: 1: Picatiny rail is standard on HK45, proprietary on USP. Here's what I know. If I get the USP I will have custom night sights installed (the HK45 comes with night sights), if I get the HK45 I will buy the threaded barrel. The other common model is the USP compact, which is a good companion to the full-size.From an armorer’s perspective, the USP 45 is a dream. I already have a full size 45 (Gen 3 G21 with a tactical length LW slide). by ... different. The full sized version of the HK45 has a 4.5-inch barrel, weighs thirty-one ounces unloaded, and takes a ten-round magazine. The Caliber .45 ACP HK45 includes several user-inspired enhancements including changeable grip panels (backstraps), a Picatinny MIL-STD-1913 accessory rail, better ergonomics, and more ambidextrous controls. Too bad the same can't be said for the P30 and USP9(/40/45 - edited for clarity), Post over at r/USPMasterRace and r/HecklerKoch. I ran about 1200 rounds through a P30 V1 which I eventually converted to a V4.1 and still couldn't take a liking to it (though it was better as a V4.1). Trying not to sound like an dick here.. but why are you so concerned with the DA part of the trigger if you’d be getting the DA/SA? Unlike the older USP frame, the HK45 comes with three finger grooves at the front, anatomically adjusted flanks and a replaceable backstrap. 13 0 0. The HK45 represents an evolutionary advancement of the Heckler & Koch USP, and shares the same operating principles of that weapon. There are several different models of the USP, but the one I tested was one common to the American market. Hopefully that’s helpful for anyone interested in either of these pistols. I did not notice a recoil difference between a USP 45 and HK45. Also, while accurate, the USP was not generally what many would call match grade. Magazines can be had for around 30-45 dollars, depending on the chambering of the gun. This type of pin lasts much longer, wears better, and rarely experiences breakage. Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. But I have no idea if HK will make a VP45 or not, would be cool though! I want the threaded barrel because I am buying a suppressor to go with it (all legal registered with the ATF). Plus 12 round capacity vs 10. You can put a USP Match trigger kit in an HK45 with the exception of the actual trigger. Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. The BIG advantage of the FNX in .45ACP is the 15 round capacity. Conçus pour l'armée US sur la base de l'USP .45 éprouvé, nos nouveaux modèles HK45 et HK45 Compact allient qualité éprouvée et nouveauté. Or even the HK45c. I was surprised to find that DA/SA was the sweet spot for me. Unlike the older USP frame, the HK45 comes with three finger grooves at the front, anatomically adjusted flanks and a replaceable backstrap. HK USP .45 vs HK45 Thread starter ptrainerchris; Start date Mar 12, 2013; ptrainerchris. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The USP holds two more rounds in the mag, and has the dual spring recoil reduction system. First, all of the major pins are roll pins, made from spring steel rolled up like a scroll. Mar 12, 2013 #1/14 wanted to see if anyone had any opinions in the H&K usp chambered in .45 vs the HK45. Its circumference is also smaller than the first generation 45-caliber polymer models, due chiefly to the slimmer magazine with a width of below 23 millimeters. the USP Tactical 45 will probably be the one you'll find the best deal on, as there's lots of them out there, so a used one in good shape with some accessories is probably not hard to come across. I'd probably convert a HK45 to a V3 (decocker only). Because DA first shot. When I was shopping for a .45 it was between the FN45 tactical and the HK45. *IF* you are looking for an HK pistol in 45, I'd go with the HK45, not the USP. HK45: USP 2.0. Also, while accurate, the USP was not generally what many would call match grade. Thank you, I'm one of those people debating between USP and HK45. Re: différence entre hk 45 acp tactical et hk usp tactical par bob razovski » 09 Juin 2015 16:23 J'aurais dû préciser, en effet, le volume du 21 est supérieur au 17, à … For the overwhelming number of people who feel like they need to have a .45 the only two real choices are the M&P45 and the HK45 and push come to shove if I’ve got to trust my life to one or the other, it would be the HK45. Finally in the spot where I can get the HK 45 I've been wanting. The HK45 is 8.03 inches long, has a barrel length of 4.46 inches, and … It is available in the same ten variants as the USP . Notre système d'amortisseur breveté augmente la précision et la durée de vie, même dans les conditions d'emploi les plus sévères. I have meaty hands, so both were ergonomic "enough," but the HK45 … Very accurate pistols. If I could only have one, I’d personally pick the USP. The difference between the two in price after modification is less than $50. the HK45 either CT or T is the newest of the 3, and middle of the road. The HK 45 isn't as soft shooting as the USP 45. The HK USP is big. Le joint torique monté à l'avant du canon minimise le jeu. I have both, i like the HK45 more due to the ergos. Personal preference. I have. Rifles. The guns are pretty similar, but they do have some notable differences. Rating - 100%. Here's what I know. The difference between the two in price after modification is less than $50. I dont sweat the trigger, these are combat pistols, not hyper accurate target pistols. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. Side bar comment I know a few guys who've been carrying usp's for years and have had no similar problems. The HK45 is an evolutionary step forward from the USP, chambered in.45 ACP. It is an updated version of the USP. The trigger is a bit hit and miss (-2 points). The USP45 trigger, both DA and SA, is worse than the HK45 trigger. Pretty much the Reddit equivalent of HKpro, Press J to jump to the feed. But I really like both and I have no intention of ever getting rid of either. Short story: Hands down the HK is more well made and solid. Seeing these photos, I’m surprised how similar the HK45 and the USPc .45 are. They are a lot of fun and I’d highly recommend both of them. I’m thinking of picking one of the two. HK recently lowered the MSRP on the HK45, it used to be about the same price as the USP, but now you can get them for a couple hundred dollars cheaper it looks like. A few years ago over on PF they did a 50,000 round test on the HK45, it did very well. Joined Jan 5, 2013 Messages 650 Likes 109 Location Weston MA. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. The o-ring mounted at the front of the barrel minimises any barrel play. .45 ACP. Have the HK45, carries both on duty and off. Something about the arch of the backstrap on the USP and the HK45c has me putting rounds to the left UNLESS I consciously compensate. Here's what I know. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I would run this DA/SA like my P30's so LEM isn't an option. Press J to jump to the feed. General: Calibre .45 ACP Operating principle Recoil-operated with modified Browning locking system Magazine capacity 10 rounds Sights 3-dot sight Dimensions: Length approx. The most obvious change from the USP is the use of a more ergonomic polymer grip with interchangeable backstraps. I have the HK45 too and adore it. It's a beast. Any advantages of one over the other such as trigger pull smoothness and quality? Get the HK45. My shooting experience is only with the P30. HK® USP® Full Size .45 ACP (10) Rd - Nickel Plated Steel. If I get the USP I will have custom night sights installed (the HK45 comes with night sights), if I get the HK45 I will buy the threaded barrel. Mine has been reliable, accurate, user-friendly and easy to clean. I’ve seen the question “HK45 or USP45?” come up a few times and have been meaning to make a comparison post, and I finally got around to it. While the ergonomics were great, I'm a lefty and my thumb kept riding the slide release. $950 for a HK45 is good though. It's massively accurate beyond my ability to shoot with naturally shaking hands. The HK USP 45 full size handgun is available in V1, which operates via double-action/single action, with a manual safety/decocking lever on the left side of the frame, or the V7 LEM variant which has the feel and response of a DA revolver with the crisp action of a SA pistol and no manual safety. Any advantages of one over the other such as trigger pull smoothness and quality? I've been thinking about the 45 compact as opposed to the full size version. If you want to attach lights & lasers, the HK45 has similar ergonomics and a weaver-compatible accessory rail, instead of the proprietary accessory rail used by the USP. Which one is more left handed friendly? The HK45 is 8.03 inches long, has a barrel length of 4.46 inches, and weighs just under two pounds with an unloaded. I think you've covered it just as well here. I have. The album has captions describing some differences, but some comments that are more subjective: Most people will think the HK45 is more ergonomic. The HK P30 and HK45 are the new era of Heckler and Koch pistols. The HK45 is an evolutionary step forward from the USP, chambered in .45 ACP. Here's what I know. The 45 feels more solid to me, like if there may be a quarter inch of tolerance on the whole gun. Its circumference is also smaller than the first generation 45-caliber polymer models, due chiefly to the slimmer magazine with a width of below 23 millimeters. the USP Tactical 45 will probably be the one you'll find the best deal on, as there's lots of them out there, so a used one in good shape with some accessories is probably not hard to come across. I have a Stainless USP .45 full size, and a regular finished USP .45 full size. Very well made. 2) and the full sized FNX-45 that holds 15 rounds + 1 up the spout. Now that I see them side by side, the HK45 looks much more tempting. Bought them together in 1995. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. I like the HK45C better, but they’re both fantastic guns. It’s a beefy animal that not every shooter finds fits their hands well. So I went with the one on the OG rainbow six game cover, and a cheap police used one. I want the threaded barrel because I am buying a suppressor to go with it (all legal registered with the ATF). Bought them together in 1995. Personal preference. Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 4, 2013. The USP has an aggressive grip texture. HK USP .45 vs HK45 Thread starter ptrainerchris; Start date Mar 12, 2013; ptrainerchris. I expect all three to outlast me Considering it's quite a bit lighter than a 1911, that's pretty good. The HK45 is a full size model pistol, but significant effort went towards making it more ergonomic than the HK USP full-size chambered in.45 ACP by incorporating features found on the Heckler & Koch P2000. The barrel an… Had a USP in 45 and an HK 45 Tactical- neither was horrible, ( although my ride the safety shooting style would occasionally decock the HK45), but neither really blew up my skirt either.

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